tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1033470319798883235.post7377678755153374548..comments2023-04-06T10:12:53.391+01:00Comments on Silly M(a)id-on: Finding Meaning In One-DayersMeghahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00192011739394095016noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1033470319798883235.post-50243696328958268972009-09-17T12:06:28.536+01:002009-09-17T12:06:28.536+01:00Shane Warne is a genius. I agree with whatever he ...Shane Warne is a genius. I agree with whatever he says.Freddyhttp://betting.ladbrokes.com/en/bet-football-ladbrokesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1033470319798883235.post-61321773462010359092009-09-15T16:05:22.538+01:002009-09-15T16:05:22.538+01:00ache, I also noticed how Harsha did not talk about...ache, I also noticed how Harsha did not talk about bowlers there but I think that the transition thing can apply to bowlers as well, though to a lesser degree than to batsmen(I think). Bowling an over or 2 here and there in a T20 is much different from having to bowl big spells in Tests. for e.g. A Shoaib Akhtar or Andrew Flintoff can survive a T20 spell, and maybe get a wicket or four. But how much credit can be given to them for canny bowling that resulted in that wicket and how much to the fact that the batsman was going after bowlers anyway and just ended up slogging to nowhere. Secondly, the kind of planning that is required at Test level is nowhere near what a T20 bowler would need. Thirdly, the stamina needed to last an entire day in a Test match will never compare to a T20, but is a lot closer to playing an ODI. And lastly, the kind of pressure a T20 bowler is under for every single delivery is very different from the "it's ok to make a mistake" in a Test.Meghahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00192011739394095016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1033470319798883235.post-15983504868625679162009-09-14T07:45:20.758+01:002009-09-14T07:45:20.758+01:00I'm not all set on it just yet but I think it ...I'm not all set on it just yet but I think it will be the future.<br /><br />Imo, Bhogle's assessment is typical of someone who has never played the game at any serious level. You have to remember that these are professional cricketers, the guys at the top spend an entire day practicing one shot over and over again with the aid of a bowling machine, hence the adage "Amateurs do it till they get it right, professionals do it tell they can't get it wrong." You don't need an in-between format like ODIs to help batsmen make the transition, if they've got the strokes all it is a change in mindset to take bigger risks. Look at how sucessful Dravid has been in both ODIs and T20s despite being written off as a test only player for the majority of his career. Isn't it also convenient that bowlers have not been brought up by Harsha? Thats because a top class bowler will be just as successful and awe inspiring in Tests and T20s and you'd sound pretty stupid if you said they needed ODIs to be able to make the transition from either of these formats.<br /><br />To draw an analogy, as someone who almost ended up playing chess professionally, I didn't need 1-2 hour games to help ease the change in approach I took in the professional 4 hour games and lightning chess. And if you think about it, the different demands in terms of concentration and approach are pretty similar. You rely on your memory of patterns and positions in blitz games (for the top professional players this is almost second nature, their brains are almost programmed to recognize these things - much the same as a professional cricketer recognizes certain kinds of swing just watching the bowling action even if the bowler tries to hide the seam's orientation), but its just in the longer format you are able to study the effects of change in line with a lot more time.achettuphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16177809419856216677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1033470319798883235.post-13469135207926542172009-09-13T20:12:44.877+01:002009-09-13T20:12:44.877+01:00Suhas - Thanks for your comment :)
I'm not mu...Suhas - Thanks for your comment :)<br /><br />I'm not much for tampering too much with the format itself, but all for any minor/major changes that help ODIs. The more I think about it, the more having a context to these matches is making sense to me. So, a limit to the number of limited over matches per tour is a definite yes. Perhaps, some rules that make the game less batsman-centric as well? Plus, I agree with Leela there...a bit more balance in who play who how often. For e.g India has played 17 matches against SL in the last 2 years, but just 4 against WI...when 2 teams play each other so often, the excitement of watching the contest lessens to a degree.Meghahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00192011739394095016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1033470319798883235.post-88880721788334457842009-09-13T20:08:49.989+01:002009-09-13T20:08:49.989+01:00Cheers Mohsin!Cheers Mohsin!Meghahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00192011739394095016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1033470319798883235.post-60914938373656071862009-09-13T20:08:23.239+01:002009-09-13T20:08:23.239+01:00ache, so u r all for just Tests n T20s then? And y...ache, so u r all for just Tests n T20s then? And you think it will be easy enough for a T20 player to cross over to Tests and vice versa?Meghahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00192011739394095016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1033470319798883235.post-12006716397874745982009-09-12T00:44:44.037+01:002009-09-12T00:44:44.037+01:00(Long comment, sorry about that!)
I'm paraphra...(Long comment, sorry about that!)<br />I'm paraphrasing a comment I left earlier on 'maidenbowling': I think the ODI can certainly be resuced with a little imagination and a few changes (some minor, some major); but whatever the ICC comes up with is plain superficial (supersubs, powerplays). The poor scheduling is also to blame - I would suggest that for the Future Tours program, every board be asked to allot no more than 6 limited over games, and it should be left up to them to distribute that number between T20s and ODIs.<br /><br />Imagine the difference if, for example, the size of the boundary was not shortened by bringing the rope in; the batsmen would have to work much harder to clear the fence, and it might force them to be more inventive when clearing the infield.Suhashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13529331211611984893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1033470319798883235.post-39626172363334094492009-09-11T20:00:46.102+01:002009-09-11T20:00:46.102+01:00nice blog i realy like your blog but i commenting ...nice blog i realy like your blog but i commenting first Time keep it up <br /><a href="http://mixx-sports.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://mixx-sports.blogspot.com/</a><br /><a href="http://mixx-sports.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">Live ICC CHAMPION TOPHY </a>Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10180828702364855309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1033470319798883235.post-41802822622995417892009-09-11T17:33:17.667+01:002009-09-11T17:33:17.667+01:00Idk, its almost as if ODIs are still played becaus...Idk, its almost as if ODIs are still played because people fear the beast that is T20, I have to agree I can barely see any context for keeping the format. Once its just Tests and T20s, Champions Trophies and World Cups will no longer have any relevance if the games last an entire day.<br /><br />LOL Homer @ "Since when did Dileep Premachandran's opinion matter to anyone besides Dileep Premachandran?<br /><br />The man cannot construct a nuanced argument and when challenged on his thesis, he either back peddles or ignores."<br /><br />Classic!achettuphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16177809419856216677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1033470319798883235.post-54464011535032502502009-09-11T14:52:04.115+01:002009-09-11T14:52:04.115+01:00There now, you are making it seem as if I am endor...There now, you are making it seem as if I am endorsing everything he says! I just said what he says about splitting ODI innings and going for 40 overs instead of 50 is what others suggest(and in the latter case, are implementing) as well.Meghahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00192011739394095016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1033470319798883235.post-40319757626761691772009-09-11T13:19:11.814+01:002009-09-11T13:19:11.814+01:00Grief? You mean you endorse the half baked, ill th...Grief? You mean you endorse the half baked, ill thought out comments DP makes?<br /><br />Cheers,Homerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13949049044524078820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1033470319798883235.post-76818687818144828642009-09-10T22:46:50.753+01:002009-09-10T22:46:50.753+01:00Bhaiya
I can think of quite a few ODIs that were ...Bhaiya<br /><br />I can think of quite a few ODIs that were part of 3-4 nation series and were extremely enjoyable. The series with Aus n SA (with Tendulkar's sandstorm interrupted innings), Titan Cup, most of the VB series come to mind immediately.<br /><br />Just thinking aloud here..I agree with what you are saying...I suppose if a mix of ODIs and Test matches (and T20s too) are compulsarily part of a tour with no more than 5 ODIs...or in case a tri-series has to be organised, then there are at least 2 rounds of league games...and the usual complaints of flat wickets and no regard for the spectator at the (Indian) grounds are given due attention, ODIs can stay as they are...Meghahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00192011739394095016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1033470319798883235.post-28937282749430816502009-09-10T22:26:21.788+01:002009-09-10T22:26:21.788+01:00Homer
I see you have been causing DP much grief (...Homer<br /><br />I see you have been causing DP much grief (that's you in the comments section isn't it?)<br /><br />What he is suggesting as measures to keep ODIs alive is what we've heard elsewhere as well, so I guess you can cut him some slack there :)Meghahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00192011739394095016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1033470319798883235.post-18420893300256463962009-09-10T17:45:42.777+01:002009-09-10T17:45:42.777+01:00Megha: I think ODIs work best when it is an aperti...Megha: I think ODIs work best when it is an apertif to test matches, or when they are part of an important tournament. I've seen some great ODIs, with great atmosphere, and invariably, they are those played in major tournaments. The atmosphere is crackling, and there is enough drama to please everyone. I think the format of the game is just fine. It is the staging of the game that is the issue. (I've also enjoyed some of the ODIs played in Australia as part of triangular series, but thats an exception).Samir Choprahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16145425333818168212noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1033470319798883235.post-58036085713680365172009-09-10T17:09:06.740+01:002009-09-10T17:09:06.740+01:00Megha,
Since when did Dileep Premachandran's ...Megha,<br /><br />Since when did Dileep Premachandran's opinion matter to anyone besides Dileep Premachandran?<br /><br />The man cannot construct a nuanced argument and when challenged on his thesis, he either back peddles or ignores.<br /><br />If he thinks ODI's need an overhaul, then the state of ODI's is just fine and dandy, thank you!<br /><br />Cheers,Homerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13949049044524078820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1033470319798883235.post-20023415538433818842009-09-10T16:53:58.307+01:002009-09-10T16:53:58.307+01:00bilateral series = when 2 countries play
and shus...bilateral series = when 2 countries play<br /><br />and shush!! u'll get me arrested for child labour!Meghahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00192011739394095016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1033470319798883235.post-41631147052187010402009-09-10T16:44:40.669+01:002009-09-10T16:44:40.669+01:00aaa... i may sound really stupid while asking this...aaa... i may sound really stupid while asking this, but whts a bilateral series...?<br /><br />and fyi, u weren't fokat in those days... remember, u used to make me bring those huge physics books from our room, so that u could watch those matches AND study...:PNikihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17361875087784680176noreply@blogger.com